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Post by fattiretrader on Jun 25, 2015 5:59:24 GMT 2
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Post by bduc61 on Jun 25, 2015 8:43:07 GMT 2
have you tried left rear dropout ? inside or outside ? do you believe the wheels are original ? with these tubulars more for a randonneuse legere build but front and rear rack are a bit contradictory to this possibility. What are the hubs ? low flange campas or Shimano's And funny to see the crane long cage coupled to the front jubile Nevertheless nice elegant seatstay junction  wonder if this is a frame "outsourced" to other framemakers and stickered Alex Singer as happened when AS could not meet demand alone ( or done to lower costs) lack of brazed brakes bosses is a bit surprising for a "full" alex singer frame ' and rear brake screw is really too long  but stem looks the "real part" so difficult to tell the true story of the frame ( but I am not a Singer expert  ) Shoot some close ups dropout pics  |
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Post by Munny on Jun 25, 2015 19:22:00 GMT 2
Superb !
This stem...
The attach of the racks
The pedals
The unperced TA cranks
The wheels nuts ..
Thanks for sharing !
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Post by filoo on Jun 25, 2015 23:30:50 GMT 2
Des 'Phil Wood CHP', avec les réflecteurs intégrés dans un profil en alu, des années 1970's comme je viens de le découvrir sur Pedal Museum ... On a fait mieux dans le genre aéro-style (mais c'était pas encore la mode dans ces années-là)   |
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Post by fattiretrader on Jun 26, 2015 5:39:14 GMT 2
Thanks for taking a look at my new old bike. I'm sorry that I do not speak French, I can read and understand French, if you have difficulties with English, I am a California Greek and I speak Greek as well as Spanish and Italian. This bike was special ordered though Cupertino Bike Shop in California. At Cupertno worked a gentleman named Spence Wolf who was one of the bicycle gurus of Norhern California in the ate 1960s and 70s. This bike is tyical of a bike that he would have assembled for a special customer. The stem cap has the owner's name and city (Berkeley) engraved in it. I think that it has most of its original parts, maybe the tires have been replaced...I believe that the wheels with Cineli Bivalent hubs are original. I think that the aplication of the Crane derailleur is smart and an obvious choice for wider gearing. The rear brake bolt may be long to accept a fender bracket... Merci! Chris www.fattiretrading.com |
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Post by fattiretrader on Jun 27, 2015 2:27:58 GMT 2
What was the last year of the unperced TA cranks? I also have a Gitane tandem with these cranks.
Merci,
Chris
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Post by fattiretrader on Jun 27, 2015 5:31:41 GMT 2
One more question. Is the saddle on my bike an Ideale 91?
Merci,
Chris
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Post by bduc61 on Jun 27, 2015 8:13:59 GMT 2
One more question. Is the saddle on my bike an Ideale 91? Merci, Chris Not sure there was a Ideale 91 ? when you google it - nothing confirms that possibility and here a Ron Kitching catalog of the period  an Ideale catalog page tends to confirm that lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qfsGVoBAxfo/U42Lm3snQ9I/AAAAAAAAFEY/zC5wJNDZ9g0/w517-h727-no/***Tron%2526Berthet-selles+ideale-1977.jpgInitially, I thought your saddle might have been a 90 which was cut not by the factory but the Made in France along the cut does not support that hypothesis unless it was made on special order - which seems to me to be the correct thing actually ( when you see the line of the cut - it is not very straight ) It was probably done to copy the brooks design ( wonder actually when the brooks with trimmed sides appeared) or gain weight About the rear mech, as a keen amateur of early Dura Ace, I can understand the choice but a french Duopar would make the build more coherent About the wheels, when you look at the chainstay length, there is really a lot of room - can the width accomodate large tyres ? You mention tyres but your pics really makes me think these are tubulars . ? so I wonder if the frame was initially equipped with such wheels ? finally to tease you a bit chris , at last another french bike in your collection alongside your red Mercier In your "collection" wishlist, I find the french references to be a bit scarce - especially in the 40/60 range its true its not that easy on the other side of the pond to source french bikes, but I find the french "proportion" to be a bit unfair to the french influence in the bike industry and history |
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Post by filoo on Jun 27, 2015 10:25:33 GMT 2
Initially, I thought your saddle might have been a 90 which was cut not by the factory but the Made in France along the cut does not support that hypothesis unless it was made on special order - which seems to me to be the correct thing actually ( when you see the line of the cut - it is not very straight ) It was probably done to copy the brooks design ( wonder actually when the brooks with trimmed sides appeared) or gain weight   Ideale saddle "Swallow" style with cutaway sides, by Norris Loackley, on classicrendezvous |
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Post by fattiretrader on Jun 27, 2015 17:19:13 GMT 2
Yes that saddle is the same as mine except for the color. It seems odd that there might not be a model number...
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Post by fattiretrader on Jun 27, 2015 17:42:59 GMT 2
One more question. Is the saddle on my bike an Ideale 91? Merci, Chris Not sure there was a Ideale 91 ? when you google it - nothing confirms that possibility and here a Ron Kitching catalog of the period an Ideale catalog page tends to confirm that lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qfsGVoBAxfo/U42Lm3snQ9I/AAAAAAAAFEY/zC5wJNDZ9g0/w517-h727-no/***Tron%2526Berthet-selles+ideale-1977.jpgInitially, I thought your saddle might have been a 90 which was cut not by the factory but the Made in France along the cut does not support that hypothesis unless it was made on special order - which seems to me to be the correct thing actually ( when you see the line of the cut - it is not very straight ) It was probably done to copy the brooks design ( wonder actually when the brooks with trimmed sides appeared) or gain weight About the rear mech, as a keen amateur of early Dura Ace, I can understand the choice but a french Duopar would make the build more coherent About the wheels, when you look at the chainstay length, there is really a lot of room - can the width accomodate large tyres ? You mention tyres but your pics really makes me think these are tubulars . ? so I wonder if the frame was initially equipped with such wheels ? finally to tease you a bit chris , at last another french bike in your collection alongside your red Mercier In your "collection" wishlist, I find the french references to be a bit scarce - especially in the 40/60 range its true its not that easy on the other side of the pond to source french bikes, but I find the french "proportion" to be a bit unfair to the french influence in the bike industry and history I do not think that here was a goal in the assembly of this bike to be franco or euro-centric. I like that it is multinational. I agree that the Duopar would have been a good choice. I used the Duopar extensively on mountainbikes in the early 1980s, they are really good derailleurs. I have a NOS one right now that I plan to put on my Trailmaster in the place of the Campagnolo Euclid that is on it now. If this Singer had come to me as a frameset, I would try to build it up all French. Do you know when the Duopar was first produced? The tires are tubulars, Clement Futurox, I do not know if these tires were made in the 70s. There is plenty of room for larger tires, so when they need to be replaced, I will install larger tires, maybe Dugast... I will probably also install larger chainrings. I'd like to have something like 26/36/52. The page which shows bikes that are in my collection is not complete. I do have more French bikes, Gitane, Peugeot, Bertin, Vitus. The only French bikes that I think are interesting are this Singer and my Ohrt (Oscar Egg?). I also have three Velo Solxes and a very early Peugeot BB. My collection for the most part consists of bicycles that have crossed my path. We are having a half off sale at the bicycle thrift store where I work (part time) today The Trips for Kids Recyclery in San Rafael. www.tripsforkids.org/marin/recyclery.htmMerci, Chris |
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Post by fattiretrader on Jun 28, 2015 17:40:09 GMT 2
Bon jour,
I have now been told by more than one person that my saddle is a factory variant of the model 90 saddle.
Merci,
Chris
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Post by filoo on Jun 28, 2015 22:31:34 GMT 2
From Satoru Masuda on Classic Bicycle :    But, also:    This second model strongly looks like your saddle, don't you think so ? |
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